"For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached" 2 Cor. 11:4
How does the Jesus preached by the Church stand up against the Yeshua of The Bible?
If the Israel of the Tanakh (Old Testament) were punished for breaking the Torah, the Law - how is it that the believer in Jesus today MUST BREAK THE LAW TO BE BLESSED?
If the Israel of the Tanakh (Old Testament) were punished for breaking the Torah, the Law - how is it that the believer in Jesus today MUST BREAK THE LAW TO BE BLESSED?
If Yeshua was without sin (breaking of the Law - 1 John 3:4): Is. 53:9; 1Pet. 2:22; 2 Cor. 5:21; Heb. 4:15, why is it that the followers of Jesus do not have to maintain the same standard?
If only the Death and Resurrection of Yeshua (Elohim Himself) achieved through AN AGONISING AND BARBARIC DEATH COULD CLEANSE AND REDEEM US FROM THE SIN OF BREAKING THE TORAH - HOW IS IT WE CAN NOW WITH IMPUNITY BREAK THAT SAME TORAH CONTINUOUSLY NOW AND FOR EVER? Rom. 6:1-14 (Hopefully we shall one day complete a teaching on this section of Scripture)
If only the Death and Resurrection of Yeshua (Elohim Himself) achieved through AN AGONISING AND BARBARIC DEATH COULD CLEANSE AND REDEEM US FROM THE SIN OF BREAKING THE TORAH - HOW IS IT WE CAN NOW WITH IMPUNITY BREAK THAT SAME TORAH CONTINUOUSLY NOW AND FOR EVER? Rom. 6:1-14 (Hopefully we shall one day complete a teaching on this section of Scripture)
If Yeshua said that He had not come to ever break or alter the Law or the teachings of the Prophets in any way what-so-ever, but in fact came to show how to live them out correctly why is it that the followers of Jesus can totally ignore the Law and The Prophets? Mat. 5:17-20 - Fulfil = G4137 Pleroo - preach, perfectly supply.
If there was never a "New Testament" in the days of Yeshua; if Yeshua never broke the Law in any way at all and Yeshua proclaimed the Law to be eternal and unchangeable what commission then could He have given His Disciples in Mat. 28:19-20 to carry out to the Nations?
If the sign of Yeshua's Divinity was to be in the grave for three complete days and three complete nights why was Jesus only in the grave for a little more than 24 hours? Mat. 12:40
It would seem that Yeshua was born on the Feast of either Tabernacles or Passover - BUT NOT THE PAGAN CHRISTMAS DAY, AND HE DIED ON PASSOVER - NOT THE PAGAN EASTER!
If Yeshua was the Prophet foretold of by Moses in Deut. 18:15-22 and confirmed by Peter (Kefas) in Acts 3:17-26, the Prophet Whom all must heed because like Moses He would keep Torah and in Whom's Mouth YHWH Elohim would put His very Words (please read these confirming Scriptures very carefully - John 12:44-50 as read with John 5:30-47) then where does this leave Jesus as taught by the Christian Church? This is why the jews do not accept this Jesus - because HE is not The Yeshua of The Torah whom they wait for!
If Yeshua is the never changing eternal Word of YHWH Elohim Who will never destroy the sons of Ya'akov as told us in Num. 23:19; Mal. 3:6; Heb. 13:8 & Jam. 1:17; and we are told by Yeshua Himself that NO PERSON HAS EVER SEEN OF HEARD YHWH ABBA in John 5:37, then WHO did the people of Yisrael hear at Mount Sinai speaking the eternal Covenant to them & Whom did Moshe see the back of if NOT THE PRE-INCARNATE YESHUA HIMSELF? Ex. 20:1; 20:19; Deut. 18:16; Ex. 33:21-23
If this then be so, then HOW CAN YESHUA CHANGE HIS ETERNAL WORD, HIS ETERNAL COVENANT, IN EFFECT LITERALLY CHANGING HIMSELF, AND THUS DECLARE THAT WHICH IS NOT OF THE FATHER AS THE TRUTH IN DIRECT CONTRAVENTION OF HIS (YESHUA'S) WORD GIVEN TO MOSHE IN DEUT. 18:20? Surely that would make Him (Yeshua) a double minded, unstable liar Who cannot be trusted according to James 1:6-8.
IS YESHUA OR IS YESHUA NOT THE VERY ETERNAL & LIVING WORD OF YHWH HIMSELF? John 1:1
IS YESHUA OR IS YESHUA NOT IN FACT YHWH ELOHIM HIMSELF? John 1:1
DID YESHUA, THE ETERNAL NEVER CHANGING WORD BECOME FLESH INCARNATE, THE SECOND ETERNAL AND PERFECT ADAM OR NOT? John 1:14
DID YESHUA, THE SECOND ADAM COME TO TABERNACLE WITH HIS CREATION OR NOT? John 1:14
DID MOSHE NOT INDEED JUST WRITE DOWN THE LAW (TORAH) AS SUPPLIED TO HIM BY THE PRE-INCARNATE YESHUA OR NOT? John 1:17
DID YESHUA NOT INDEED COME TO LIVE OUT THE LAW (TORAH - MARRIAGE COVENANT THAT HE HIMSELF GAVE TO MOSHE) PERFECTLY AND THUS GIVE US A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF HOW TO LIVE OUT THE TORAH OF YHWH HIS FATHER FOR ALL TO SEE, AGAIN I NEED TO STRESS, NOBODY HAS SEEN OR HEARD THE FATHER, THUS ONLY YESHUA CAN OR COULD EVER PRESENT HIM (ABBA) TO THE WORLD? John 1:17-18 NB: the but found in verse 17 in-between Moses and Grace is not in the original text, thus what we in actual fact have in reality is a situation of a progressive action between The Giving of The Torah and The Revealing of GRACE AND TRUTH - Moses gave (recorded) the Law (Torah) and YESHUA BY HIS LIFE AND DEATH BROUGHT INTO REAL TIME THE NECESSARY GRACE AND TRUTH TO LIVE THE TORAH OUT IN ACCORDANCE TO THE WILL OF ABBA - THE ORIGINAL TEXT THEN DOES NOT, IN MY OPINION, SUPPORT TWO SEPARATE AND DIVORCED ACTIONS AS IMPLIED BY THE IMPROVISED AND INCLUDED NON-EXSTANT BUT!
There is so very much more we can add to this list to show the massive difference between our Yeshua of The Torah and the Brit Chadashah Jesus of The New Testament as taught by the Church, but that would necessitate multiple and deeper teachings based primarily on the Torah itself, the Torah, Law, Covenant that the Church has aborted!
The argument that Jesus has done away with the Torah (Law) but only maintained the "Moral Laws" is without Biblical basis or context, unless of course we are to assume that Sha'ul (Paul) himself changed the Laws, and once again that is absolutely ludicrous, and had Sha'ul in fact done so he would have to be considered and declared a false teacher and heretic according to The Eternal Word.
We may in conclusion wish to once again consider the very heart of who the Anti-Christ is -
This Jesus taught by the Church seems to have changed, or at least authorised the change of TIMES AND LAWS OF YHWH ELOHIM!
Finally looking at Dan. 7:25 again we will see that I emphasised and expounded on those given over to the A/C - Who were they? The Saints of YHWH - please see Rev. 12:17 and see whom the A/C was wroth with and whom he made war against -
The remnant of seed of the Woman - redeemed Israel, those with the seed of Messiah Yeshua in them WHO KEEP (PRESENT AND CONTINUOUS) THE COMMANDMENTS OF ELOHIM AND HAVE THE TESTIMONY (WITNESS) OF MESSIAH!
So here is the thought:
Could the Jesus preached by the Church possibly be another Jesus (YESHUA) whom Sha'ul (Paul) and the Apostles DID NOT PREACH? 2 Cor. 11:2
We need to test this out, our eternity depends on it!
Shalom
Bo'az
*** I am listing this Link again as it may help answer some questions on trhis topic:
http://theshofarblows-steve.blogspot.com/2013/11/stone-your-rebellious-sons_6885.html
If the sign of Yeshua's Divinity was to be in the grave for three complete days and three complete nights why was Jesus only in the grave for a little more than 24 hours? Mat. 12:40
It would seem that Yeshua was born on the Feast of either Tabernacles or Passover - BUT NOT THE PAGAN CHRISTMAS DAY, AND HE DIED ON PASSOVER - NOT THE PAGAN EASTER!
If Yeshua was the Prophet foretold of by Moses in Deut. 18:15-22 and confirmed by Peter (Kefas) in Acts 3:17-26, the Prophet Whom all must heed because like Moses He would keep Torah and in Whom's Mouth YHWH Elohim would put His very Words (please read these confirming Scriptures very carefully - John 12:44-50 as read with John 5:30-47) then where does this leave Jesus as taught by the Christian Church? This is why the jews do not accept this Jesus - because HE is not The Yeshua of The Torah whom they wait for!
If Yeshua is the never changing eternal Word of YHWH Elohim Who will never destroy the sons of Ya'akov as told us in Num. 23:19; Mal. 3:6; Heb. 13:8 & Jam. 1:17; and we are told by Yeshua Himself that NO PERSON HAS EVER SEEN OF HEARD YHWH ABBA in John 5:37, then WHO did the people of Yisrael hear at Mount Sinai speaking the eternal Covenant to them & Whom did Moshe see the back of if NOT THE PRE-INCARNATE YESHUA HIMSELF? Ex. 20:1; 20:19; Deut. 18:16; Ex. 33:21-23
If this then be so, then HOW CAN YESHUA CHANGE HIS ETERNAL WORD, HIS ETERNAL COVENANT, IN EFFECT LITERALLY CHANGING HIMSELF, AND THUS DECLARE THAT WHICH IS NOT OF THE FATHER AS THE TRUTH IN DIRECT CONTRAVENTION OF HIS (YESHUA'S) WORD GIVEN TO MOSHE IN DEUT. 18:20? Surely that would make Him (Yeshua) a double minded, unstable liar Who cannot be trusted according to James 1:6-8.
IS YESHUA OR IS YESHUA NOT THE VERY ETERNAL & LIVING WORD OF YHWH HIMSELF? John 1:1
IS YESHUA OR IS YESHUA NOT IN FACT YHWH ELOHIM HIMSELF? John 1:1
DID YESHUA, THE ETERNAL NEVER CHANGING WORD BECOME FLESH INCARNATE, THE SECOND ETERNAL AND PERFECT ADAM OR NOT? John 1:14
DID YESHUA, THE SECOND ADAM COME TO TABERNACLE WITH HIS CREATION OR NOT? John 1:14
DID MOSHE NOT INDEED JUST WRITE DOWN THE LAW (TORAH) AS SUPPLIED TO HIM BY THE PRE-INCARNATE YESHUA OR NOT? John 1:17
DID YESHUA NOT INDEED COME TO LIVE OUT THE LAW (TORAH - MARRIAGE COVENANT THAT HE HIMSELF GAVE TO MOSHE) PERFECTLY AND THUS GIVE US A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF HOW TO LIVE OUT THE TORAH OF YHWH HIS FATHER FOR ALL TO SEE, AGAIN I NEED TO STRESS, NOBODY HAS SEEN OR HEARD THE FATHER, THUS ONLY YESHUA CAN OR COULD EVER PRESENT HIM (ABBA) TO THE WORLD? John 1:17-18 NB: the but found in verse 17 in-between Moses and Grace is not in the original text, thus what we in actual fact have in reality is a situation of a progressive action between The Giving of The Torah and The Revealing of GRACE AND TRUTH - Moses gave (recorded) the Law (Torah) and YESHUA BY HIS LIFE AND DEATH BROUGHT INTO REAL TIME THE NECESSARY GRACE AND TRUTH TO LIVE THE TORAH OUT IN ACCORDANCE TO THE WILL OF ABBA - THE ORIGINAL TEXT THEN DOES NOT, IN MY OPINION, SUPPORT TWO SEPARATE AND DIVORCED ACTIONS AS IMPLIED BY THE IMPROVISED AND INCLUDED NON-EXSTANT BUT!
There is so very much more we can add to this list to show the massive difference between our Yeshua of The Torah and the Brit Chadashah Jesus of The New Testament as taught by the Church, but that would necessitate multiple and deeper teachings based primarily on the Torah itself, the Torah, Law, Covenant that the Church has aborted!
The argument that Jesus has done away with the Torah (Law) but only maintained the "Moral Laws" is without Biblical basis or context, unless of course we are to assume that Sha'ul (Paul) himself changed the Laws, and once again that is absolutely ludicrous, and had Sha'ul in fact done so he would have to be considered and declared a false teacher and heretic according to The Eternal Word.
We may in conclusion wish to once again consider the very heart of who the Anti-Christ is -
And he (ANTI-CHRIST) shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they (The Saints) shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. Dan. 7:25 (additions by me)
This Jesus taught by the Church seems to have changed, or at least authorised the change of TIMES AND LAWS OF YHWH ELOHIM!
Finally looking at Dan. 7:25 again we will see that I emphasised and expounded on those given over to the A/C - Who were they? The Saints of YHWH - please see Rev. 12:17 and see whom the A/C was wroth with and whom he made war against -
The remnant of seed of the Woman - redeemed Israel, those with the seed of Messiah Yeshua in them WHO KEEP (PRESENT AND CONTINUOUS) THE COMMANDMENTS OF ELOHIM AND HAVE THE TESTIMONY (WITNESS) OF MESSIAH!
So here is the thought:
Could the Jesus preached by the Church possibly be another Jesus (YESHUA) whom Sha'ul (Paul) and the Apostles DID NOT PREACH? 2 Cor. 11:2
We need to test this out, our eternity depends on it!
Shalom
Bo'az
*** I am listing this Link again as it may help answer some questions on trhis topic:
http://theshofarblows-steve.blogspot.com/2013/11/stone-your-rebellious-sons_6885.html
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